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Hey Hex
Oct 2, 2006 20:10:33 GMT -5
Post by Chris Stanley on Oct 2, 2006 20:10:33 GMT -5
I hate to burst your bubble dude, but there's no such thing as a level 10 mutant. The most powerful mutants alive are known as Omega Mutants, and they are Level 5 mutants.
Examples: Mutants like Phoenix, and at his full potential, Iceman
The scale is from 1 to 5. In the Marvel/X-Universe there's nothing higher than a level 5 mutant.
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Hey Hex
Oct 2, 2006 20:47:02 GMT -5
Post by ECKS on Oct 2, 2006 20:47:02 GMT -5
And I almost forgot, the thing about Rogue stealing Wolverine's power and using the bone claws, the claws aren't a part of Wolverine's mutant powers. His mutant powers include the healing factor, senses, strength, and stuff. The claws are just something he has naturally, like his hair, or his teeth.
But it's cool, a lot of people make this mistake.
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Hey Hex
Oct 2, 2006 21:14:57 GMT -5
Post by Rogue on Oct 2, 2006 21:14:57 GMT -5
Just thought I would interject something here : According the the comics she did at one point use his bone claws but we are in movieverse so it kinda never happened that way
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Post by HeX on Oct 3, 2006 3:31:15 GMT -5
Ok so I have a couple question about the "bubble bursting" going on here:
1) Are these not made up characters?
2) I never said we were level tens. I said Had the potential to be level 10, thats factoring in mutant abilities, Sinister's genius, exterrestrial technology, and dimension hopping...But never did I say that me or any other member was a level 10
3) this refers to my #1 -- Even though these are characters that we have totally made up I still have to follow the movie guidelines instead the 50+ years of comics that have already been provided? Does this really make sense?
4) Wolverine's original mutation was bone claws (along with super healing and stuff)...His name is James Howlett and when Thomas Logan (Wolverine's father) kills John Howlett (Wolervine's adopted father), James kills Thomas in revenge, and his regenerative healing factor, heightened senses, and claws emerged....bone claws. Its cool alot of people make that mistake...
So pretty much Im going to bed and you guys have just been [glow=red,2,300]BURNED[/glow]
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Post by HeX on Oct 3, 2006 3:37:49 GMT -5
Oh and one more thing... None of us can kill anyone off without their permission according to your rules... So what are you worried about? Just curious
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Hey Hex
Oct 3, 2006 14:24:24 GMT -5
Post by ECKS on Oct 3, 2006 14:24:24 GMT -5
I'm not worried, I would just like to keep this board as much according to the real facts of the comics and movies as possible. And yes, you can make your own original character but each character has to follow the basic guidelines of the comics and movies. And in the comics and movies there's nothing higher than a level 5 mutant. Meaning that no matter what you use there's no such thing as a level 10 mutant. If there were higher levels don't you think mutants like Phoenix and Apocalypse would be ranked higher than 5, seeing how powerful they are. If I allowed everyone to change that basic rule don't you think everyone who joined would have like a level 10 or even level 20 or maybe even level 100 mutants. Basically making them a god, I think so. So for everyone joining, keep it to a scale of 1 to 5. This is an X-Men based board and according to every X-Men source there's nothing higher in the comics or movies and there's nothing higher here either.
And I still don't see how Wolverine's claws are a part of his mutant power, the claws are just a part of his skeleton, like his skull, fingers, ribs, etc. If Rogue actually did take his claws then please tell me when this happened and I will concede this part of the argument.
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Hey Hex
Oct 3, 2006 15:39:56 GMT -5
Post by Rogue on Oct 3, 2006 15:39:56 GMT -5
I took this from Wikipedia and it states that she got his healing factor and claws . . . . I am still trying to find the issue it happened but it is true
During the Maximum Security Rogue absorbed a dying Skrull girl named Z'Cann. The girl held on longer than necessary, using her telepathy to boost the process and because of this (perhaps because she had absorbed a fluid Skrull physiology) Rogue mutated further, gaining the ability to 'recall' the powers of anyone she had ever absorbed before, though she could not control when or which of these powers surfaced. For a short time Rogue also had a Skrull appearance, scanned as though she had Skrull DNA and had their shape-shifting powers, but these soon faded and she returned to her normal appearance.
Through meditation Rogue learned how to suppress the random manifestations of most these abilities, but found herself with Wolverine's claws and healing factor, and Cyclops' optic blasts for a time (she had to wear Ruby Quartz glasses), while also still retaining her mutant and Ms. Marvel powers.
Later Sage used her own mutant abilities to 'jump start' Rogue's power, giving her the control to manifest any ability she had ever absorbed, whenever she wished to.
Though Z'Cann was a telepath Rogue did not ever display this power (she did manifest telepathy, but it was with the Phoenix energy form, so it was most likely an echo of Jean Grey's powers).
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Hey Hex
Oct 3, 2006 15:53:09 GMT -5
Post by Rogue on Oct 3, 2006 15:53:09 GMT -5
her is the picture from the comic still trying to find the number though
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Hey Hex
Oct 3, 2006 15:58:43 GMT -5
Post by Chris Stanley on Oct 3, 2006 15:58:43 GMT -5
Well I can't really argue that but in my own opinion I still think Wolverine's claws should not be considered part of his mutant ability. So I guess that part of Hex's story can stand.
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Hey Hex
Oct 3, 2006 16:06:03 GMT -5
Post by Rogue on Oct 3, 2006 16:06:03 GMT -5
There was a big thing aobut where is claws came from so I guess this is the answer. . . . .he had them the whole time and they are only coated in adamantium like the rest of his skeleton
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Hey Hex
Oct 3, 2006 18:14:17 GMT -5
Post by HeX on Oct 3, 2006 18:14:17 GMT -5
The only part of my story that I made up was the Part about Sinister and Mystique adopting children together. Everything else did happen in the comic book. I didnt make that up, I am following guidelines. And the movie mention different level mutants I dont remember the comic classifying mutants by levels 1 thur 5.
And because Apocalypse is an immortal, as well as Selene, and Gateway I would think that their level would be higher than 5 (for the simple fact that they cant die) if we were going to give them a level.
Apocalypse like many other villians, wanted an army of the world's most powerful mutant. So he enlisted help from Sinister and Dark Beast , and they both did come up with ways to do so but they tested it on not so powerful mutants (Angel for example).
Or what about mutants like Caliban, Marrow, or Magik who travel to different dimensions and come back fully evolved, fully grown, and/or 5x as powerful as they were before? So I did that with my
Also I dont think classifying pheonix as a level 5 is valid. Pheonix, a force from outter space, took over Jean Grey body. Thus making her pheonix power not a mutation, just something that made her super powerful.
So I did some research and double checking. Made several connections that involved dimension hopping, experimentaion, and technology from another world to make; worthy, interesting, and challenging characters/villians.
Ever person in the blog had the oppurtunity to do the same!
Why would I make up a weak villian, with no history, little ties to the comic, and second hand abilities?
I mean seriously, in this blog you guys are SUPER HEROES thus you need SUPER VILLIANS. The characters havent even been to battle yet and already there is a problem?
My friends and I came here as true X-Men COMIC fans, which you have implied is ok to use as a source in this blog. If people havent read the comic as much as we have is that really our fault? Do you find that treatment fair? "You guys are gonna have to dumb yourselves down because no one else thought to do that" is what it sounds like.
My suggestion; use the internet, the book store, the comic book store. Read up on some issues. Find out the history of the characters and their backstory. Make connection, educate yourself even further. Get creative, make your characters even more interesting. Dont get up tight because you think someone's character is stronger than yours, or you didnt think to do that.
The thing is I am a writer. I'm creative. I like in-depth character with history and mystery. Who are you to imply that I should do that in a blog room thats suppose to be for people with such abilities?
So to some it all up: Everyone had the same oppurnities I did, with the researching, and the back-tracking, etc...before posting a single blog. And like the villagers in Rome your going to stone us for being thinkers...thanks for the warm welcome
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Hey Hex
Oct 3, 2006 18:17:37 GMT -5
Post by Pestilence on Oct 3, 2006 18:17:37 GMT -5
is chris and ecks the same guy?
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Hey Hex
Oct 3, 2006 18:22:40 GMT -5
Post by Rogue on Oct 3, 2006 18:22:40 GMT -5
Listen no one is saying anything about you doing your homework. But this is a RP based on the Movieverse. If the moderator puts limits down, its his site he has the right to do that. Your are more than welcome to join the sight as long as you folow his rules. No one is trying to blast you or make you feel unwelcome, just making sure you foloow the rules just like that. Youa re basing most of your stuff on the comics which some of us(not myself) are not famailiar with. I made it so Rogue has all the pwoers from Ms. MArvel but I figured a way to make it happen according to the movies.
PS. Yes chris and ECKS are the same
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Hey Hex
Oct 3, 2006 18:39:04 GMT -5
Post by 8-ball on Oct 3, 2006 18:39:04 GMT -5
i no that the bad guys are supose to be stronger then the good guys but now that much stronger
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Hey Hex
Oct 3, 2006 18:56:46 GMT -5
Post by HeX on Oct 3, 2006 18:56:46 GMT -5
The rule if Im am reading this correctly is no level tens, right?
Can someone please point out were I said that me or any other character was a level ten? If its the word ten (that word that was never appointed to any character) that is bothering you so much then simply divide it by 2, problem solved?
And yes the moderator has a right to set rules. It was the rules I read before posting anything. Read the rules, read my story, Im within my rights.
"I would just like to keep this board as much according to the real facts of the comics and movies as possible" -- Ecks aka Chris
So according to the moderator I dont have to follow ONLY the movie version just because you dont know the comic book.
Thats cool that you did your own little movie twist but no thank you. I like the comics just fine. You and I arent the same.
And I was accused of not doing my homework:
"I hate to burst your bubble dude, but there's no such thing as a level 10 mutant. The most powerful mutants alive are known as Omega Mutants, and they are Level 5 mutants."
" the claws aren't a part of Wolverine's mutant powers."
"This is an X-Men based board and according to every X-Men source there's nothing higher in the comics or movies and there's nothing higher here either."
And I guess what really bothers us, me mostly, is that instead sending my a private message saying "Look bro thats an interresting story but we are following the movie story line more than anything else so if you could just adjust a couple things that would be appreciated." But instead I get a whole public blog dedicated to me and "bursting my bubble". So when you say "No one is trying to blast you or make you feel unwelcome, just making sure you foloow the rules just like that." Though it might not have been on purpose it does make one feel (A) blasted and (B) unwelcomed
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